The z24..the newer ones with the 2.4 twin cam and 5 spd are capable of high 15s with a good driver. The automatic is confined to staying in the 16s. The 3.1s are mid 16s cars and CAN be in the 15s with a couple mods and a good driver. I know cause I had Sunfire with the 3.1 v6 before.
The SiR, has 160 hp and 111 lbs torque at the flywheel. 138 hp and 100 lbs torque at the wheels. It has a close ratio tranny which enables it to stay above 6000 rpm between shifts. Stock magazine report 1/4 mile times to be 15.7-15.9. But most owners do not know how to launch there SiR. They cannot be launched under 4500 rpms cause the engine will bog down. A good launch is the key.
So get a guy who knows his SiR and we will rape the GT automatic and will be in front by at least a car lenght of the 5 speed Z.
As for the 97+ Prelude Sh, you are day dreaming...even I cannot beat my friends SH and I run 15.4 at the track. The magazine reports 15.2-15.5 on the 1/4 for the Prelude SH.
So don't think cause you beat 1 Prelude or SiR that the car isn't all that. You just got lucky that's all!!
And as for the TypeR...95% of the time it's either a rich kid or a middle age geek driving it because it's pretty expensive so they do not know how to drive it..so it's hard to find a good race against one...but you'll be surprise when he leaves you 4 car lenghts back!
And as for the Top Speed...your Z is limited right??? Can it even it 200?? Are you even brave enough to bring it that high in your unstable car?
The SiR is drag limited at 230 kmh..meaning with a little improvment on the aerodynamics it could easily get to 250.
I have nothing against the Z or it's owners..just trying clear things up cause you seemed pretty confused and dreaming in color!
Get your best J-body (stock or bolt-ons) VS one of our SiRs or take your pick, here's the list.
92 integra RS- stock
92 integra RS - SiR motor
99-00 civic SiR - stock (CAI)
97 integra GSR - bolt ons
93 Civic Si - ...you don't even wanna try that one
92 integra GSR
take your pick.
I'm sorry, but no J-body is gonna take any of theses Hondas.
Owner of the world's only Honda with the spirit of a Ford Tempo
feardonegt Registered User
Posts: 30
(7/24/01 10:23 pm) Reply
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Hey! I got a 1991 sunbird gt 3.1 manual and against the first one I could have a very good chance it will be mostly the driver but let's say that he would win I'm gonna laugh like shit because I probably paid half or a 1/3 of what he paid for his car so he can be a car or less in front of me for the 1/4 mile. Plus you people forget something in real life you don't race on a track from 0-100km/h or thinks like that, you just drive on your lane and when you need your acceleration is when you want to pass a lamer who drives like my grandma, with a j-body that will be much more easy because you just downshift and you have your max power already because hp and torque is at low rpm, with a honda let's say you drive at 1500 rpm at low speed your gonna downshift so your gonna be at what 3000 rpm maybe more that's not even close to where the max horsepower is situated for a civic I know that because my parents have one (an automatic I know!!!!!! but still I can very easely see that at low rpm it has no power) anyway that's what I think maybe I'm wrong but that's my opinion untill somebody can prove me wrong !!! For the sir and all the rest they seem like quick little cars just that if somebody would buy a japonese car it would be a much better idea to get a TURBO!!!! (got to love turbo)!!!!!!
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TURBO , come on . BE a man and keep it N/A and kick some ass .
me i don't like TURBO and NITROUS , i find more challenging to make a N/A car fast . its easy tu put a turbo or nitrous and get some good numbers .
try it now with the N/A route , especially in your case 4 cyl BOWTIE driver ( driver of the one and only gm 4 cyl that was rated LEMON since its debute AND don't tell me they upgraded it , to me its the same OLD fucken QUAD 4 ) powerfull but fragile . and before you tell me GM performance made performance parts for N/A route on the QUAD 4
Quote: with a honda let's say you drive at 1500 rpm at low speed your gonna downshift so your gonna be at what 3000 rpm maybe more that's not even close to where the max horsepower is situated for a civic
1500 rpms!!!!! nobody drives his honda at such low rpm..unless it's automatic. 3000 rpms is the cruising rpms..like 60kmh in 3rd or 8kmh in 4th.
And then when you downshift, say from 3rd gear at 60kmh, you enter 2nd gear at about 5000 rpms..which is pretty close to max power. I'm not talking about the SiR here, just the other base models.
The Sir, cruises at 60kmh at 3500 rpm..If I downshift the rpms hit 6000 and I'm in Vtec screaming til 3rd gear in a matter of a second.
Honda does not have power down low..but they are geared to better use the top end power.
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1500 rpm!? hahahaha whats that!!!... im cruising at 4000 rpm on the highway at 120 kmh in fifth gear... honestly I rarely drive under 3000 rpm Not because I drive fast... but because the tranny is made like that... if you drive under 3000 rpm in a honda... its because you are going pretty %$?%$?&%$ slow! damn im right at 3200 rpm in fifth gear on the blv. at like 75-80 kmh
"Need new tires and a new clutch!!"
feardonegt Registered User
Posts: 31
(7/25/01 11:39 am) Reply
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OK if you say so but just to make sure i'm gonna ask a friend who has a manual because I tought that civics at low speeds like 60 run at very low rpm!!!!!!
feardonegt Registered User
Posts: 32
(7/25/01 11:44 am) Reply
re:Mart B17a
Hey Mart B17a
go to www.dallasracing.com then go in to the movies section after that when you see turbo cars like talons and others race camaros and wining maybe you'll change your mind about TURBO!!!!
Re: re:Mart B17a
you don' get it , I DONT LIKE TURBO .
ITS NOT ABOUT WINNING , U CAN BE FAST AS FAST WITHOUT A TURBO
feardonegt Registered User
Posts: 33
(7/25/01 10:32 pm) Reply
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k good everybody likes what he wants that's ok with me!!!!but you should still go to that site it has very nice video clips of drag racing. Also to finish something for good because I'm getting tired of this a civic model that is suppose to be the equivalent of my car would be a 1991 civic si and from what I know that car only has 108 hp and even with a very good driver it wouldn't stand a chance against a sunbird gt 3.1 manual (plus it costs more) but I can understand why some people like them more it is true they break less often and for the Integra or new sir well I don't give a sh*t if I lose or not !!!!!! Plus I race for fun even raced one of my friends mitubishi eclipse gt and I knew he was gonna kill me big time still it was fun and I was happy that he didn't destroyed me that bad only had a car on me!!!!!! Well cya on the streets I'm loosing too much time on this msg board!!!
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You know there is a reason that your cars do cost like half the price of a honda! Its like buying a canadian tire muffler vs an oem one! Not that your cars suck....there just not as good! As for the morons that go and compare a civic dx to there z24's well no @#%$ you win dumb ass it the lowest modle! I never see stories of a gsr that got killed???? Honda not a car! hahahah lets go into a really twisty road and we see if you can keep up with that big bulky pieace of shiat!
Patrick Ferguson
Vice President, J-Body Montreal
5-speed, Black 1996 Z24
ICQ:75902582
E-mail=Black96_z24@yahoo.ca
www.black96z24.8m.com
www.J-Body-Montreal.8m.com
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WINNER:1st place DOMESTIC at the IMPORTS VS. DOMESTIC's show, Varennes,Qc. 2001
WINNER:2nd place J-BODY PRO at the SCP 2nd Gear show, Montreal,Qc. 2001
lol
Pat your car is nice and it is fast but in all reality do you really think that your car can take a teg or a prelude in corners? Come on get real specially since you got coilovers! Dude get the real deal if you even wanna go that way! Koni yellows and newspeed springs! Or tokiko blues! Dont go coilovers in a windy road ....youll be toast!
Re: lol
i take corners like never before just because out the coil overs......trust me i can put up a fight but i wont, too worried about selling it now.........
Patrick Ferguson
Vice President, J-Body Montreal
5-speed, Black 1996 Z24
ICQ:75902582
E-mail=Black96_z24@yahoo.ca
www.black96z24.8m.com
www.J-Body-Montreal.8m.com
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WINNER:1st place DOMESTIC at the IMPORTS VS. DOMESTIC's show, Varennes,Qc. 2001
WINNER:2nd place J-BODY PRO at the SCP 2nd Gear show, Montreal,Qc. 2001
Nissan Sentra SE-R SPEC V / v's / Z24
j'ai pris cette artique dans sport compac car pour une 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R SPEC V de 180 hp selon nissan avec un moteur 2.4l il fait les même performence qu'un Z24 150HP ????
Anyway, the car we tested, felt strong on the road. Its torquey engine and exceptionally short, close gears fooled our backsides. Then we took the car to the track. Unbelievably, it was slower than the last SR20DE-powered Sentra we tested. That car hit 60 mph in 7.8 seconds and ran the quarter-mile in 15.7
What's more, on our in-house Dynojet chassis dyno the SE-R made only 142 hp and 153 lb-ft of torque. Drivetrain losses aside, any engine rated at 180 hp and 180 lb-ft of torque, which Nissan was claiming for the car at the time, should make more than 142 hp on the chassis dyno. Case in point: The 2001 Acura Integra GS-R carried a factory claim of 170 hp and turned 150 hp on our dyno.
Price : Approx. $16,900
Engine
Engine Code : QR25DE
Type : Inline four, aluminum
block and head
Valvetrain : DOHC, four valves per cylinder, VTC variable intake cam timing.
Displacement : 2488cc
Bore & Stroke : 89.0mm x 100.0mm
Compression Ratio : 9.5:1
Horsepower : 175 hp at 6000 rpm
Torque : 180 lb-ft at 4000 rpm
Redline : 6100 rpm
Drivetrain
Layout : Transverse front engine,
front-wheel drive
Exterior Dimensions
Curb Weight : 2743 lbs
Weight Distribution F/R : NA
Overall Length : 177.5 in.
Wheelbase : 99.8 in.
Overall Width : 67.3 in.
Track F/R : NA
Height : 55.5 in. Suspension
Front : MacPherson Strut
Rear : Multi-Link Beam
(twist beam axle with two
trailing links and one Scott-
Russel lateral locating link)
Brakes
Front : 11.0-inch vented discs,
single-piston sliding calipers
RSX type S v's Z24
pi la ya personne qui peut me dire que honda ou acura sont super performent, regardé le temps 0/100 en 7.1 sec pour un chard de 200 HP. Un Z24 le fait en 7.7 en moyenne stock....pour 150hp
2002 ACURA RSX TYPE S
Estimated Price : TBA: Approx. $20,000-$25,000
Engine
Engine Code : K20C
Type : In-line four
aluminum block and head
Valvetrain : DOHC, four valves per cylinder, per cylinder, i-VTEC variable valve timing
Displacement : 1998cc
Bore & Stroke : 86.0mm x 86.0mm
Compression Ratio : 11.0:1
Horsepower : 200 hp @ 7400 rpm
Torque : 142 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm
Redline : 7900 rpm
Drivetrain
Layout : Transverse front engine, front-wheel drive
Transmission
Gear Ratios
1 : 3.266:1
2 : 2.130:1
3 : 1.517:1
4 : 1.147:1
5 : 0.921:1
6 : 0.738:1
Final drive : 4.388:1
Differential : Open
Chassis
Exterior dimensions
Curb Weight : 2775 lbs
Weight Distribution F/R : 61/39
Overall Length : 172.3 in.
Wheelbase : 101.2 in.
Overall Width : 67.9 in..
Track F/R : 58.3 in./58.4 in.
Height : 55.1 in.
Suspension
Front : MacPherson Strut, anti-roll bar
Rear : Double wishbone with semi-trailing lower control arm and lateral upper arm, anti-roll bar
Brakes
Front : 11.8-inch vented discs, single piston sliding calipers
Rear : 10.2-inch solid discs, single piston sliding calipers
Wheels and Tires
Wheels : 16 x 6.5-inch aluminum aluminum
Tires : 205/55R16 Michelin
Pilot HX MXM-4
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph : 3.1 sec.
0-60 mph : 7.1 sec
30-50 mph : 2.5 sec
Braking
60-0 stopping distance : 145 ft
2002 ACURA RSX
Estimated Price : TBA: Approx. $20,000-$25,000
Engine
Engine Code : K20A
Type : In-line four
aluminum block and head
Valvetrain : DOHC, four valves per cylinder, per cylinder, i-VTEC variable valve timing
Displacement : 1998cc
Bore & Stroke : 86.0mm x 86.0mm
Compression Ratio : 9.8:1
Horsepower : 160 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque : 141 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline : 6800 rpm
Drivetrain
Layout : Transverse front engine, front-wheel drive
Transmission
Gear Ratios
1 : 3.266:1
2 : 1.880:1
3 : 1.212:1
4 : 0.921:1
5 : 0.738:1
6 : 0.738:1
Final drive : 4.388:1
Differential : Open
Chassis
Exterior dimensions
Curb Weight : 2716 lbs
Weight Distribution F/R : 61/39
Overall Length : 172.3 in.
Wheelbase : 101.2 in.
Overall Width : 67.9 in.
Track F/R : 58.3 in./58.4 in.
Height : 55.1 in.
Suspension
Front : MacPherson Strut, anti-roll bar
Rear : Double wishbone with semi-trailing lower control arm and lateral upper arm, anti-roll bar
Brakes
Front : 10.3-inch vented discs, single piston sliding calipers
Rear : 10.2-inch solid discs, single piston sliding calipers
Wheels and Tires
Wheels : 16 x 6.5-inch aluminum aluminum
Tires : 205/55R16 Michelin
Pilot HX MXM-4
Performance
Acceleration
0-30 mph : 3.1 sec.
0-60 mph : 7.1 sec
30-50 mph : 2.5 sec
Braking
60-0 stopping distance : 145 ft
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